Let them fight: Airbnb host adds ‘no crypto mining’ rule after tenant installs 10 rigs (protos.com)
from dgerard@awful.systems to buttcoin@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 12:40
https://awful.systems/post/2112071

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BlueMonday1984@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 13:54 next collapse

Rare Airbnb W

femtech@midwest.social on 11 Aug 2024 14:09 next collapse

The reminds me I need to ask the Airbnb I’m going to if I can charge my car at their place.

troybot@midwest.social on 11 Aug 2024 14:27 next collapse

Very thoughtful to ask, but they probably wouldn’t even notice that on the electric bill. It’s about the same usage as running an electric space heater.

femtech@midwest.social on 11 Aug 2024 15:11 collapse

True, I just remembered this story. abcnews.go.com/Business/…/story?id=21098590

LesserAbe@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 17:28 collapse

I had to look, sounds like charges dropped.

Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Aug 2024 16:46 collapse

All of that ridiculousness over 4 cent’s worth of electricity. And of course it was all started by some Karen (“local passerby”) offended at the audacity of someone plugging their car in at the school.

Soyweiser@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 15:54 collapse

On that note, saw they were warning people going on vacation that there are now scams that mega overcharge you to charge your car. So for anybody with an electric car on vacation, do be aware of that.

AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works on 11 Aug 2024 14:53 next collapse

$100k in 3wks with 10 rigs using standard power outlets at an AirBnB?

I’m dubious.

I totally believe they did this, but I question profitability. The power use alone would be much higher than $1500.

dgerard@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 14:58 next collapse

oh yeah. no way are you going to make any appreciable money here.

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml on 12 Aug 2024 10:28 collapse

lol, i’m surprised to see you propagating “turn $1.5k into $100k in just three weeks” bitcoin fanfic/advocacy like this 😂

self@awful.systems on 12 Aug 2024 13:58 collapse

the word promulgating is creaking under the strain of this sentence

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml on 12 Aug 2024 14:30 collapse

you’re right, that is the not quite the right word; i edited my comment to say propagating instead.

froztbyte@awful.systems on 12 Aug 2024 14:33 next collapse

looks at thread title, looks at this comment

🤨

dgerard@awful.systems on 13 Aug 2024 09:39 collapse

if only it were posted to a sub for making fun of this shit

froztbyte@awful.systems on 13 Aug 2024 10:12 collapse

wow that’s a great idea, we should make one of those!

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 11 Aug 2024 15:37 collapse

A typical house may have a 200amp service. That would equate to about 2400 24000 watts at typical 120v (the voltage consumer computers use).

What’s the math on wattage-to-bitcoin (assuming ideal and average system capabilities)?

I don’t know enough to know where to start.

Edit: I dropped a zero on the watts

froztbyte@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 15:53 next collapse

“dogshit (with a side extremely-maybe lucky once)”?

you can only fit so much computation on some amount of power, and that’s also highly influenced by type/execution of the computation involved

the “extremely-maybe”: I’m extremely not going to bother even attempting to calculate the present statistical likelihood of being block reward winner (I can, and will, do better things with my time), but ito total computation possible from rando airbnb-miner vs structural-miner configuration it’s just super fucking unlikely

I don’t know enough to know where to start.

easy: skip even trying. you, too, have better things to do with your time

LesserAbe@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 17:23 collapse

I’ve mined before and this isn’t how it works. I was mining dogecoin in 2014 or so (before Elon hyped it and it was just a joke). You join a “mining pool” where a bunch of people group their processing power together. It keeps track of how much processing each member contributes, and when the mining pool group is awarded a block then it’s split up proportionally based on each member’s contribution.

Clearly that was a while ago so I’m a little out of the loop and there might be new developments. And if someone had enough processing power conceivably they could go it alone, but I’m not sure how prevalent it is. Probably not enough for an Airbnb miner.

As far as how profitable it is, I would bet that $100k figure is pretty inaccurate. It was a while ago but when I was mining I was tracking my electricity costs vs the value of the coins I had mined and it didn’t last more than a few months. It no longer made sense because the “mining difficulty” went up, which meant power cost too much. So it’s not entirely easy money, you need to minimize your electric costs as much as possible, as well as cost of your mining equipment.

Miners will buy dedicated hardware made specifically for mining crypto so their margins may be better, but $100k even assuming no power costs and renting an Airbnb seems very high.

froztbyte@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 17:40 next collapse

I’ve mined before and this isn’t how it works

Clearly that was a while ago so I’m a little out of the loop

you are not tall enough for this ride

LesserAbe@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 22:48 collapse

If you have personal experience mining cryptocurrency please share

dgerard@awful.systems on 12 Aug 2024 13:06 next collapse

or better, don’t

LesserAbe@lemmy.world on 12 Aug 2024 16:20 collapse

I’m not advocating for mining crypto. I understood the commenter above me to be (rudely) saying I wasn’t qualified to comment on whether this Airbnb scammer could have made the profit they claimed. (“You’re not tall enough for this ride”)

But that same commenter didn’t seem to be aware that with a mining pool you don’t have to single handedly win a block in order to make a profit.

It’s still wasteful and unsustainable.

froztbyte@awful.systems on 12 Aug 2024 16:47 collapse

I’m not advocating for mining crypto. I understood the commenter above me to be (rudely) saying I wasn’t qualified to comment on whether this Airbnb scammer could have made the profit they claimed. (“You’re not tall enough for this ride”)

no, for running your mouth with statements that directly defeat each other

But that same commenter didn’t seem to be aware that with a mining pool you don’t have to single handedly win a block in order to make a profit.

the great thing about projection is one can imagine anything you want in someone else’s head!

It’s still wasteful and unsustainable.

oh hey, a correct take! finally

self@awful.systems on 12 Aug 2024 14:00 collapse

if you have personal experience drinking gasoline please share

dgerard@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 19:49 collapse

so this is about right, and after this year’s halving it’s even worse

many bitcoin rigs don’t hit a single block in their lifetime

so I would guess the crypto bro in this case maybe got something as part of a large pool, but i really doubt he hit big

AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works on 11 Aug 2024 15:55 next collapse

I may be behind on the times, but I’m pretty sure an expensive 200ish terahash setup will consume ~3500W.

To make $100k in 3wks you’d need to be doing like 40,000 terahash (ignoring electric costs). Probably 80,000+ accounting for electricity?

Someone please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

dgerard@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 19:49 collapse

oh yeah, he’s lying

dgriffith@aussie.zone on 11 Aug 2024 17:16 next collapse

200 amps x 120 volts is actually 24kW.

But that’s still not enough to mine any appreciable amount of crypto in that time period.

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 11 Aug 2024 17:47 next collapse

Thanks for the correction, guess I forgot a zero! Lol

(Not sure how I let that slip, should’ve been obvious, 2400w is space heater territory on a 20amp circuit).

stevestevesteve@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 2024 17:50 collapse

It’s also actually 240volt service to virtually any house in the US. 48kW

froztbyte@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 17:59 collapse

citation needed

froztbyte@awful.systems on 11 Aug 2024 18:03 collapse

on brief checking: ah, (large parts of) the US uses a different ground reference (because of fucking course they do)

christ what a clown country

Cerothen@lemmy.ca on 12 Aug 2024 17:41 collapse

Homes in North America are actually split phase 240v so it would actually be 240v * 200 or 48,000w. Not that I’m here to say you’re wrong for your primary point, but the incoming supply is a 200amp fuse per leg (120v to neutral, 240. Leg to leg), with any imbalance returning though the neutral line.

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 11 Aug 2024 15:39 next collapse

Hahaha, I love seeing AirBnB getting owned like this. Too bad it was the homeowner who got screwed, and not AirBnB.

xilliah@beehaw.org on 12 Aug 2024 09:07 next collapse

Fellow programmers, please stop writing crap like this.

swlabr@awful.systems on 12 Aug 2024 09:37 collapse

The real move is to do this with an “illegal” airbnb sublet, that way you can add landlords to the fight.

Also you should start an extermination company and cook meth as well, like in breaking bad, so you can also have meth cartels in the mix.