Gil Duran on J. D. Vance and our old friend Moldbug (newrepublic.com)
from dgerard@awful.systems to sneerclub@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 20:07
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slopjockey@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 20:37 next collapse

As Delegate of San Francisco, what should you do with these people? I think the answer is clear: alternative energy. Since wards are liabilities, there is no business case for retaining them in their present, ambulatory form. Therefore, the most profitable disposition for this dubious form of capital is to convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.

Jesus Christ

Okay, just kidding. This is the sort of naive Randian thinking which appeals instantly to a geek like me, but of course has nothing to do with real life. The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.

Oh ok, that’s less(?) terrible

However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide. That is: the ideal solution achieves the same result as mass murder (the removal of undesirable elements from society), but without any of the moral stigma. Perfection cannot be achieved on both these counts, but we can get closer than most might think

Jesus Christ

slopjockey@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 20:43 next collapse

Speaking of the “virtualization” plan he has, did he not realize how expensive and impractical and un-immersive this would be, especially with 2008 technology?

You have to buy (and eventually repair) a shit ton of 4d VR headsets. You have to feed these guys and excercise them to make sure they don’t atrophy too hard. And VR sucks ass, even now, so the entire facility would just be a shittier, smellier dark ride with a captive audience.

Isn’t this just a stupider version of The Matrix? How is this guy so renowned?

YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 21:59 next collapse

How is this guy so renowned?

His rich audience are also stupid

V0ldek@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 00:31 collapse

But Ready Player One had thiiis!

Come on bro, let’s build the Torment Nexus alreadyy

BigMuffin69@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 21:23 next collapse

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the removal of undesirable elements from society

Let me guess who gets to decide what qualifies as undesirable

YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 22:00 collapse

This isn’t an even a “let me guess” situation, Yarvin’s whole innovation is that he will just straight up tell you

V0ldek@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 00:30 next collapse

The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.

The trouble? That’s the trouble? Not the genocide, the optics of genocide?

You see, the trouble with Nazi Germany is that they didn’t have a big enough PR budget.

YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 08:18 collapse

You guys aren’t getting it. It’s like what I said in another comment about how he’ll just “straight up tell you” and you don’t need to guess what he thinks about black people. He does think the problem with Nazi Germany is that, amongst other things, they didn’t have a big enough PR budget. That’s his whole thing! His whole idea here is to tell you that genocide is good in the service of a well-run dictatorship!

bitofhope@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 05:05 next collapse

Weird, naive Randian thinking seldom appeals to a geek like me. That said, I bet Ayn Rand herself would find this a tad barbaric. If for no other reason, she’d probably say buses are collectivist.

o7___o7@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 06:30 collapse

This guy is badly in need of a wedgie.

sc_griffith@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 20:51 next collapse

Vance did not get this extremist ideology from his Appalachian upbringing or—needless to say—Yale Law.

fucking libs, man. elite law schools are absolutely infested with fascists

V0ldek@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 14:40 collapse

lulz, ofc, all the extremists study at Harvard or some shit?

gerikson@awful.systems on 23 Jul 2024 22:14 next collapse

Wow I learned even more horrifying things about Yarvin from this.

barsquid@lemmy.world on 23 Jul 2024 22:27 next collapse

“States’ rights” but for corporations. Awesome.

cstross@wandering.shop on 24 Jul 2024 17:09 collapse

@dgerard Moldbug didn't get radicalized at Berkeley in the early 90s but his elder brother was definitely a libertarian back then. Curtis was just chilling with hallucinogens and a room full of giant lizards in his geek house.

dgerard@awful.systems on 24 Jul 2024 19:12 collapse

the lizard obsession is still the most human thing i’ve ever heard about Yarvin