Why I'm leaving EA (forum.effectivealtruism.org)
from dgerard@awful.systems to sneerclub@awful.systems on 28 Jun 2024 22:19
https://awful.systems/post/1796221

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sc_griffith@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 00:11 next collapse

giving any reason other than “the community needs to be more racist” is way exceeding my expectations. well on them

dgerard@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 00:13 collapse

thankfully gives that one too, i.e.

Now I see a community whose commendable openness to unbiased discussion of any idea is being misused by questionable actors to platform their views.

seems to have been the last straw

(even as you or i might say “my good bitch have you met rationalists”)

Soyweiser@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 10:33 collapse

“my good bitch have you met rationalists”

It can be pretty hard to admit you have been conned, so I figure this is their defense mechanism, pretending that this all is new and not that it has been there from the start. (The hbomberguy skull guy was one of the early LW people for example (9 years, has it been 9 years already?))

mawhrin@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 11:58 collapse

jfc. i remembered that the aurini motherfucker was very liberal with hard-r, but listening to that clip in 2024 is something else altogether.

dgerard@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 15:31 collapse

so much nothing of value was lost when his youtube was finally shut down

gnomicutterance@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 04:06 next collapse

From the comments:

Insect welfare (unlike woke identitarian proliferation) is not a priori wrong.

a community whose commendable openness to unbiased discussion of any idea, uh huh.

AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space on 29 Jun 2024 07:47 next collapse

At first I thought that, knowing libertarian-adjacent weirdos, that must be a typo.

Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 11:42 collapse

there aren’t morally relevant differences between arthropods and other animals that justifies not equally considering their interests

That’s funny, this is usually an argument against animal liberation.

jax@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 05:34 next collapse

lmao this person writes a personal goodbye message, detailing their experience and motivations in what reads to be quite an important decision for them, and receives “15 disagrees” for their trouble, and this comment:

I gave this post a strong downvote because it merely restates some commonly held conclusions without speaking directly to the evidence or experience that supports those conclusions.

This is EA at its “open to criticism” peak.

cwood@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 19:49 collapse

Is there some EA culture thing where every thought has to be expanded into essay form?

Soyweiser@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 20:17 collapse

Lol, this is considered a footnote by the Rationalist/EA standards

gerikson@awful.systems on 29 Jun 2024 21:11 collapse

Yeah this was bascally a tweet.