Chris Langan and the "Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe"? Oh boy!
from blakestacey@awful.systems to sneerclub@awful.systems on 27 Mar 2024 23:05
https://awful.systems/post/1246648
from blakestacey@awful.systems to sneerclub@awful.systems on 27 Mar 2024 23:05
https://awful.systems/post/1246648
a lesswrong: 47-minute read extolling the ambition and insights of Christopher Langan’s “CTMU”
a science blogger back in the day: not so impressed
[I]t’s sort of like saying “I’m going to fix the sink in my bathroom by replacing the leaky washer with the color blue”, or “I’m going to fly to the moon by correctly spelling my left leg.”
Langan, incidentally, is a 9/11 truther, a believer in the “white genocide” conspiracy theory and much more besides.
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the comments are winners too
Langan:
There’s a longish section about the physicist John Archibald Wheeler. I know people who worked with Wheeler. I’ve read Wheeler’s unpublished notebooks. Get John Wheeler’s name out of your mouth.
The very first thing that section says is
No, he didn’t.
No, they rely upon numbers extracted from up a creationist’s colon.
Hey now, the atom just got out of a cold swimming pool.
Back in 2009, Yud asked who he should do a “bloggingheads” dialog with. Two people suggested Langan.
And one suggested Scott Adams.
And here’s Ben Goertzel, formerly MIRI’s director of research:
zoom and enhance
Typical Langan, for reference:
Goertzel is also co-editor of a book called Evidence for Psi — he’s a Cosmist who believes in psychic powers.
as a wannabe science/mathtist I totally feel the pain of realizing that I will probably never have any good, original ideas unless I actually dedicate my life to studying the works of people that actually had good, original ideas.
In these people, I see a version of me that didn’t tell myself that all my stupid theories of the universe and consciousness are total unfalsifiable wastes of time. It’s a type of “high-iq” psychosis.
It’s fun to stand on the shoulders of giants… and having the standard stuff down cold is the best way to convince experts that when you do have a zany idea, it might be worth considering.
A propos: John Baez’s math.ucr.edu/home/baez/books.html (How to Learn Math and Physics)
You just said “at the speed of light”, but while doing a backflip and taking a shit mid-air.
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God damn, I was expecting a normal boring reformulation of phenomenology but this is kooky.
It would appear that high IQ curses you with the ability to turn old concepts into utter bullshit. Hopefully doctors find a cure soon.
I’ll tell my kids this is object-oriented ontology.
Honestly? Improvement
The discussion in the comments has continued in a low-key way. Now they’re making excuses for why the nutbar is incomprehensible:
Langan has been “working” on the CTMU since the 1990s. People have been born since then and have had time to learn how to talk like academics.
Langan himself has
showed upgraced the comment section with his benevolent presence!Dude made “you’re holding it wrong” into a philosophy, impressive.