We offer cozy nooks with firepits, discussion rooms with endless whiteboards, and up to 44 bedrooms (with up to 80 beds).

Not a cult.

Lighthaven is a space dedicated to hosting events and programs that help people think better and to improve humanity’s long-term trajectory.

Definitely not a cult.

Humanity’s future could be vast, spanning billions of flourishing galaxies, reaching far into our future light cone [1]. However, it seems humanity might never achieve this; we might not even survive the century. To increase our odds, we build services and infrastructure for people who are helping humanity navigate this crucial period. [1]: Or even more than the light cone, depending on how the acausal trade stuff works out.

Have we mentioned how very much not a cult we are?

Thank you for doing god’s work

Ain’t lightcone the ones who funded the effective charity that was a husband, a wife, two employees and a brother in law who fucked an employee, angering the wife? I seem to remember her writing a long tirade about how hot tub meetings and travel photos proved that working conditions at the charity were very good, and there’s nothing inappropriate about any of the above.

that was noticed by the gobshites and they’re not happy about it, i think the tracingwoodgrains person really dislikes you:

I respect that and agree that those comments cross a line that should not be crossed. I’m sympathetic to the value of red lines and taboos, and I regularly put active effort into defending the sentiment that racism is bad and should be condemned (though I am extremely cautious about tabooing people as a whole based on specific bad sentiments).

It’s more complicated for me here because as mentioned above, I find Hanania’s commentary on other topics unusually valuable and think I have had valuable, worthwhile interactions with him such that I am glad for opportunities to do so.

More than that, I am conscious that many who most eagerly pursue the taboo, including the writers of the Guardian article and people like David Gerard who provided background for it openly despise you, me, and others in these spheres, and given taboo-crafting power would craft a set of norms emphatically disagreeable to me. I think parts of the EA community have themselves shown some susceptibility to similar impulses, throwing people like Nick Bostrom under the bus to do so. That post in particular actively made me more wary of EA spaces and left me wondering who else would be skewered.

The individual who wrote that post no longer works at CEA but openly demands that EA cut ties with the entire rationalist community. I like you and broadly trust your own instincts here, even where we might disagree about where to draw specific lines, but I am extremely wary of yielding norm-setting power to people who treat my approach (engaging seriously with anyone) as worthy of suspicion and condemnation, and I think when they succeed in setting the frame, it works against a lot of the rationalist and rationalist-adjacent community norms I value.

(i find it symptomatic, but not at all surprising that the person who criticised bostrom is not with the movement anymore, but scientific racists and hbd-curious fuckers like tracing… are.)

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My “I have no specific views on eugenics” T-shirt has prompted many questions already answered by my T-shirt

“Manifest is open minded about eugenics and securing the existence of our people and a future for high IQ children.”

This guy… ugh I wanted to make it through today without learning about a new weirdo but I ended up watching the above presentation. Some terrible quotes for y’all to sneer at:

[increasing oxytocin] probably makes you more ethnocentric. Is that a moral enhancement? In some ways yes in other ways no.

I’m not saying I’m racist, but I’m like not not saying that either.

The few people [remaining] that are prone to do [theft] can learn that there are reasons not to do that in high-IQ-- um sorry-- in developed countries.

Oopsie just a little slip of the tongue teehee.

Solutions: AI-guided suggestions to parents about the traits they should select.

Oh no

I think what’s going to happen is that people are going to cluster more together; potentially in smaller political societies with enough land to be defensible, along traits that they care about.

Ah yes, he did mention he was a libertarian at the start didn’t he?

Overall: dude spent way too much time talking about IQ, expressing weird racist ideas without ever saying the word “race”, complaining about “wokeism”, and day-dreaming about genetic breeding in libertarian citadels.

All of them, Jim. All of them.